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Return of the Shower Meme

From moominmuppet:

  1. What mythological/religious character do you most identify with? Why?

    I'm torn between Asushunamir and Demeter, but I'd go with Asushunamir because it's more my style to sneak in to the enemy stronghold and rescue someone than to secure their release by going on strike and pitching a fit. There's also the whole aspect of self-sacrifice on behalf of the world in general and trans community in particular in the Asushunamir myth.

  2. With unlimited budget and time to do so, what adventure that you haven't yet undertaken would you choose first?

    If I started a circumnavigation by transiting the Northwest Passage, with stops in Ahmedabad, Turkey, and sub-Saharan Africa (with Dad flown in for the occasion), I'd hit five of the seven items on the "to do" list that I gave indigodove.

  3. What's your favorite 'guilty pleasure' food-wise?

    Hi, I'm Sue, and I'm a cheese-a-holic. I can't pass up wings, either, or trash plate, but you can make a whole meal out of those. Cheese, however, is just an indulgence. (Well, okay -- sometimes I'll have cheese-and-crackers or Ploughman's Lunch as a meal, but still....)

  4. When did you first get involved in activism of any sort?

    When I was at Deerfield, I was the president of our campus chapter of S.T.O.P. Nuclear War, and wound up having my senior year weekend privileges revoked because I snuck off to a rally in Washington during spring term of junior year, and handcuffed myself to the White House fence. (Helen Caldicott put me up to it.)

  5. When did you first get involved in trans-specific activism?

    I tried to get people involved in trans activism during my first transition, but that was back in the "underground" era, when the standard advice was to go deep stealth and stay there, and everyone thought I was mad. When I transitioned again, I found the web site for It's Time, Ohio! and contacted Sarah and Mary Ann about getting involved with It's Time, Cleveland! When I got to Columbus for that month's ITOH! meeting, they informed me that there wasn't an It's Time, Cleveland! yet, and would I please organize one?

And since I haven't done this yet: if anyone would like me to interview them (with five questions), leave a comment, and I'll do so.

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mac_arthur_park
Aug. 21st, 2003 12:26 pm (UTC)
I can't wait to see what you come up with (and I'll happily reciprocate, if you like).
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 07:29 am (UTC)
I would like. Questions for you will be en route after polycon....
ysabel
Aug. 21st, 2003 12:28 pm (UTC)
Mmm. When was the first time and when was the second time? Now I'm curious...

I stopping trying to pretend to be male in 1990, but it took me another five years to prove to myself that no, really, I needed to just be female, none of the in-between stuff was going to work for me. (And I didn't even really find out about the intersexuality stuff until just a couple of years ago, believe it or not.)

And yes, my surgery is going to be thirteen years after I decided that I needed to do something about my gender dysphoria and eight years after transitioning... :-/
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 06:07 am (UTC)
First time: I transferred to Case Western Reverse in 1989, subscribed to the first trans mailing list on the Net, and learned that real people who weren't pro tennis players or marginalized drag queens could transition. My transition began about fifteen seconds later. :-) I had big problems with beard shadow, money (financially dependent on parents), therapists (gatekeeping university gender clinic), and fear. I wound up transitioning, then detransitioning very shortly afterwards, in May of 1991.

Second time: in late 1996, I got divorced, and wound up reexamining the whole question of gender. By late January of 1997, my transition was on again, but it took me until November to find a job, and various distractions kept me from making an appointment with E2000 until January of 1998. My first E2000 trip was in September of 1998, by which time I'd come out -- again -- to my Mom. I transitioned on New Year's Eve 1998-99, and am now 3 1/2 years post-op.
ysabel
Aug. 22nd, 2003 06:44 am (UTC)
Oooh!

CDForum or Transgen? I was active on CDForum at about that time (very active, since that was the mailing list I pretty much used to cope with things) and a charter member of Transgen, partly because one of the founders came out of that same community on CDForum.

Or some other list? As far as I know, those were the first two, in that order...
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 07:30 am (UTC)
Wait -- you were on cdforum? Huh. I joined around digest #56 or so, if memory serves, back when Denise was still the moderator.
ysabel
Aug. 22nd, 2003 08:09 am (UTC)
I can't find any of my archive stuffs at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that I joined around digest #20 or so.

Somewhere on exabyte I have a pretty much complete archive of cdforum but I have no idea where anymore. For all I know that tape got thrown out, though I did try to keep my old tapes...

I went by Deb Parks or Debbie Parks depending on my mood, and when I first joined I was extremely prolific. *sheepish grin* I quieted down after a while, though.
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 08:22 am (UTC)
Oh, hey, I remember that name! Wow, it's been a while.

I think that makes you the second oldest trans friend that I'm still in contact with. (I went to boarding school with solarbird -- a single-sex boarding school at that!)
ysabel
Aug. 22nd, 2003 06:45 am (UTC)
I will admit to some envy over the folks who manage to do the hormones/transition/surgery cycle so fast. Then again I know that I'm sort of an outlier in the other direction...
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 07:35 am (UTC)
If you count from the time that I joined cdforum to my trip to Neenah, it's over a decade, so I really get where you're coming from. If only I'd stuck with it the first time... but I'm not sure that my life would be as good now if I had, so I can't really complain.
ysabel
Aug. 22nd, 2003 08:05 am (UTC)
Yeah, I went really femme without any other assistance in late '91/early '92 (pretty successfully), and then met my to-be-wife and went back the other way for a while. (She knew from day one that I was in some fashion gender variant, since I was damn femme the day we met and I explained it that evening.)

It didn't last, though. Either the trying to be nominally male -- if somewhat more flexible -- or the marriage. (The marriage died for reasons mostly not related to my gender situation.)

I've wondered before what would've happened if I hadn't have met her. I was certainly well down the path of just living as de facto female...
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 08:11 am (UTC)
The marriage died for reasons mostly not related to my gender situation.

Mine ended because she decided she was a lesbian. No, really. :-)

It ended almost immediately, too -- she had actually met her current partner about three months before the wedding. If she'd been just a trifle faster in figuring things out, we could have saved ourselves quite a bit of hassle. But we're friends again now.
ex_serenejo
Aug. 21st, 2003 01:31 pm (UTC)
Whassa trash plate?
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 06:11 am (UTC)
It's yummy, but extremely Not Vegan -- start with a substrate of home fries plus either baked beans, macaroni salad, or more home fries. On top of that, put some meat -- two cheeseburger patties, a couple of hot dogs or Italian sausages sliced in half, or whatnot. On top of all of this goes mustard, onions, and a ground beef-based "hot sauce". It's greasy, bad for you, and delicious.
ex_serenejo
Aug. 22nd, 2003 07:11 am (UTC)
Oh, yeah, I think you might've told me about that before. (And I'm extremely Not Vegan myself, lately.)
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 07:33 am (UTC)
I'm extremely Not Vegan myself, lately.

I'll have to treat you to trash plate, then, if you ever make it to Rochester before linuxspice and I defect to Canada. (Or if we do, we'll have to take the ferry over for some, and a trip to Letchworth too.)

I hope this won't keep The Supermarket Vegan from seeing print....

Seriously, seriously wish you were here, but I understand why not.
ex_serenejo
Aug. 22nd, 2003 10:04 am (UTC)
To be honest, when you and I met, there was more of a market for that book -- other people got off their asses before I did. It's morphed into another, similar thing, though, and really might be something I manage to finish this year; we'll see.
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 10:30 am (UTC)
*good non-writers-block vibes*
kat_chan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 01:40 am (UTC)
When you came down in June, did you notice that our ITOH! Denny's in Mansfield is gone? I was so sad to see that!

If you think that you can come up with five questions for me, feel free, and I will try and answer them right away. But don't feel any obligation.
futabachan
Aug. 22nd, 2003 06:00 am (UTC)
Oh, that's right -- you had some for me somewhere. Could you repost them? I'll come up with questions for everyone after alt.polycon is over....
kat_chan
Aug. 24th, 2003 06:05 pm (UTC)
I don't think that I did, but I'll have to look back at my journal and yours to see if I did. And as I said, if you can come up with five for me, feel free to ask away.
moominmuppet
Aug. 22nd, 2003 08:28 am (UTC)
Could I have some questions?
catskillmarina
Aug. 22nd, 2003 05:04 pm (UTC)
When did i first get involved in Activism - Well I'm retired now ;-)
I would have to say that it was in 85 when i went to
Greene and Lowndes County to do Voter Registration.

Then i was a Farm Labour organizer....

I got involved with T activism because of Amanda Milan.
I wanted to help the street girls. Everything else was
a mistake with regards to the T movement. (other than
the house which i do not regard as activist).

Marina
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