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Fire and Ice, marriage edition

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moominmuppet
Dec. 9th, 2004 04:13 pm (UTC)
The HRC called for donations a few weeks ago. I explained to them exactly why I chose not to support HRC, and sent my money to other organizations, such as NGLTF, instead.

They tried the "we all have to stick together, give us your money anyway" argument. I pointed out I wasn't pulling my money from the fight, just from routing it through them.
solarbird
Dec. 9th, 2004 05:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah - I've given money to both, but ... really, fundamentally, appeasement doesn't work.

Heh. Fundamentally. o.o
rosefox
Dec. 9th, 2004 07:37 pm (UTC)
I am increasingly disenchanted with HRC. Mind you, I still support the Alternatives to Marriage Project, but as a stopgap, not a solution!
octobrianaoz
Dec. 9th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)
Different Responses to Human Rights
That does seem good news for Canada, but I'm not surprised for the US. Hey, the radio has; just had a news item about Canada's legislation - talk about syncronicity!

Here in Australia, things are slightly different. Whereas the Federal government (with open complicity from the Federal Opposition) rushed through their "Confirmation of Marriage" act earlier this year (which defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman, to the exclusion of all others) it was all part of a package deal.

We have long have a whole string of "rights" for de facto relationships (a.k.a. "common law" marriages) except for things like superannuation and other such things. While the legislation killed gay/lesbian marriages, it also confirmed de facto rights for same-same partners, and other "intimate relationships" (such as long term live-in carers, etc). Also, post-op trannies who've been recognised by their State, can get legally married as that gender.
futabachan
Dec. 10th, 2004 05:56 pm (UTC)
Re: Different Responses to Human Rights
Also, post-op trannies who've been recognised by their State, can get legally married as that gender.

That wasn't the case before? In that case, at least they got rid of one of two bad laws, and perhaps someday they can fix the other one....
octobrianaoz
Dec. 11th, 2004 11:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Different Responses to Human Rights
Well Births & Deaths are State responsibilities, and Marraiges are Federal ones (which get administered by teh States). This meant that technically even though you might get your birth dert changed, it may (or may not) be recognised under Federal law. Such matters until now have been decided arbitrarily by the courts.
pir_anha
Dec. 10th, 2004 06:46 am (UTC)
Re: Fire and Ice, marriage edition
One official said the group would consider supporting President Bush's efforts to privatize Social Security partly in exchange for the right of gay partners to receive benefits under the program.

oh ghod.

just say no to appeasement.
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